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[Thunderdome] 3e core party vs. Bone Devil

Started by fectin, July 04, 2012, 12:11:21 AM

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Kaelik

This is for fectin/observers about treasure then:

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Since he has agreed to go multiple times, my theory is that all the encounters should be treated as EL 10s for treasure parcel purposes.

Technically, this can be true in that CR 9, 10, and 11 monsters are all given as EL 10 encounters, and he is a level 10 party.

So I have three ideas: 1) just generate 1 treasure parcel at random and use it for all of them.
2) Generate a different random treasure parcel for each time.
3) Generate 4 treasure parcels (that's how many CR 9-11 demons/devils get treasure) and I can pick which one I want for each Demon/Devil.

to quote DMG, "If you want the treasures to make sense, roll for them randomly but then assign them to the encounters based on your best judgment."

My preferences go from bottom up, for obvious reasons.
Quote from: FrankTrollmanReally, the only thing the "my character can beat up your character" challenges ever do by presenting a clear and unambiguous beat down is to have the loser drop of the thread and pretend the challenge never happened.

jibbajibba

Quote from: Kaelik;561905This is for fectin/observers about treasure then:

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Since he has agreed to go multiple times, my theory is that all the encounters should be treated as EL 10s for treasure parcel purposes.

Technically, this can be true in that CR 9, 10, and 11 monsters are all given as EL 10 encounters, and he is a level 10 party.

So I have three ideas: 1) just generate 1 treasure parcel at random and use it for all of them.
2) Generate a different random treasure parcel for each time.
3) Generate 4 treasure parcels (that's how many CR 9-11 demons/devils get treasure) and I can pick which one I want for each Demon/Devil.

to quote DMG, "If you want the treasures to make sense, roll for them randomly but then assign them to the encounters based on your best judgment."

My preferences go from bottom up, for obvious reasons.

An opintion on the treasure options

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I would vote for option 2. Keeps it cleaner and less post analysis oportunity for siting cherrypicking treasure parcels as a reason for party failure
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Kaelik

Quote from: jibbajibba;561917An opintion on the treasure options

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I would vote for option 2. Keeps it cleaner and less post analysis oportunity for siting cherrypicking treasure parcels as a reason for party failure

Spoiler
Which is why I specifically quoted the rules that tell you to cherry pick treasure parcels for different monsters, but I'm fine with anything.
Quote from: FrankTrollmanReally, the only thing the "my character can beat up your character" challenges ever do by presenting a clear and unambiguous beat down is to have the loser drop of the thread and pretend the challenge never happened.

Spike

If that's how y'all gonna be, PM me when you're done whispering behind my back...

:p
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fectin

Folks,

I'm sorry. Life got busy, and I'm not going to be able to support this for a couple weeks. Since he volunteered earlier, you may want to ask DeadDM to step in; otherwise I'll be back in mid-August.

deadDMwalking

Haven't been posting a lot, but I'm around.  I'd be happy to step in if all parties are ready and willing.
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Kaelik

Quote from: deadDMwalking;564395Haven't been posting a lot, but I'm around.  I'd be happy to step in if all parties are ready and willing.

I need treasure rolls for EL 10 encounters, followed by talking out my usual patterns.
Quote from: FrankTrollmanReally, the only thing the "my character can beat up your character" challenges ever do by presenting a clear and unambiguous beat down is to have the loser drop of the thread and pretend the challenge never happened.

deadDMwalking

I'm away from home, so I'm using this site for random treasure generation:

http://www.ajs.com/~ajs/cgi-bin/mktreasure.cgi

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Treasure 1
CR 10 Random Treasure
coin: 0pp 1,900gp 0sp 0cp (1,900gp value)
art: silver comb with moonstones (800gp)
art: fire opal pendant on a fine gold chain (1,800gp)
art: embroidered and bejeweled glove (1,000gp)
art: solid gold idol (10 lb.) (800gp)
arcane scroll containing:
   1. see invisibility (lvl 2, cast 3) (150gp) (150gp value)
wand of summon monster II (charges 28) (2,520gp)
bear's endurance (potion) (300gp)
arcane scroll containing:
   1. jump (lvl 1, cast 1) (25gp)
   2. shocking grasp (lvl 1, cast 1) (25gp)
   3. mount (lvl 1, cast 1) (25gp) (75gp value)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total value: 9,345gp
Resale value: 7,822gp 5sp

Treasure 2
CR 10 Random Treasure
coin: 336pp 5,872gp 8,309sp 6,297cp (10,125gp 8sp 7cp value)
wand of magic missile (7th) (charges 41) (4,305gp)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total value: 14,430gp 8sp 7cp
Resale value: 12,278gp 3sp 7cp

Treasure 3
CR 10 Random Treasure
coin: 12pp 79gp 5sp 50cp (200gp value)
gem: red spinel (80gp)
gem: chrysoprase (60gp)
gem: amber (90gp)
gem: fiery yellow corundum (6,000gp)
gem: onyx (70gp)
gem: coral (100gp)
eagle's splendor (potion) (300gp)
ring of swimming (2,500gp)
medium +1 shield, heavy, steel (1,340gp)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total value: 10,740gp
Resale value: 8,670gp

Treasure 4
CR 10 Random Treasure
coin: 0pp 1,300gp 0sp 0cp (1,300gp value)
spider climb (potion) (300gp)
boots of the winterlands (2,500gp)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Total value: 4,100gp
Resale value: 2,700gp
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

deadDMwalking

Spike,

Please repost your characters with necessary corrections.  Kaelik has pointed out that you've raised your skills to 14 ranks (when 13 is maximum); some of the skills were a little higher than they should be.
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

Kaelik

I declare victory by forfeit, since unlike when I didn't show up in this thread, Spike has received PMs telling him to fucking show up.

Also it's probably been longer by this point.
Quote from: FrankTrollmanReally, the only thing the "my character can beat up your character" challenges ever do by presenting a clear and unambiguous beat down is to have the loser drop of the thread and pretend the challenge never happened.

Spike

Oh, yeah, you're totally right. Since I didn't even bother to log onto the web for a week, a bone devil will always one shot any given arbitary wizard, and the rest of hte party will always be utterly useless without said wizard.


:rolleyes:

Whatever. I'm back now, you've got my attention for the next day or so until I get bored again.  Feel free to invite someone else to play my party of geeks if I wander off again.
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Planet Algol

Quote from: Kaelik;569722I declare victory by forfeit....
You don't get to declare anything buttercup.
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

Benoist

It's actually hilarious to see these guys cry and bend over backwards to get to call something, anything, a "victory". Please, I want more ridiculous denials of reality like this. They entertain me.

Bedrockbrendan

With all due respect I dont think deadDMwalking is a good impartial choice for game master (that isnt an attack on you oersonally deadDM, as i dont think I would be impartial). The GM ought to be someone who hasn't had much of a stake in any of these discussions.