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Team Gimp vs Standard adventuring day.

Started by Mr. GC, October 06, 2012, 07:21:06 PM

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Doom

Quote from: StormBringer;591488You're on!  Six 7th level Commoners coming online.

See, now this sounds like fun....no special abilities, no "I win" buttons, just actually role playing the game.

I think a thread on this would be more insteresting.
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This Guy

Well, I see this went in a different (but not entirely unexpected) direction since the last time I poked my head in.

GC, I'll get to work on making those characters, but you'll have to give me a couple of days; I am busy as hell IRL and need to reacquaint myself with some of the particulars of 3.5, it's been a while.

I will largely be using the core books, as I haven't the time to go hunting through every sourcebook to optimize characters to the best of my ability.  You can let that inform the odds as you will.
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Mr. GC

Quote from: This Guy;591499Well, I see this went in a different (but not entirely unexpected) direction since the last time I poked my head in.

GC, I'll get to work on making those characters, but you'll have to give me a couple of days; I am busy as hell IRL and need to reacquaint myself with some of the particulars of 3.5, it's been a while.

I will largely be using the core books, as I haven't the time to go hunting through every sourcebook to optimize characters to the best of my ability.  You can let that inform the odds as you will.

First of all, thank you for an on topic and useful post.

That said I'm cool with waiting, as long as it actually happens. I can't say I'd really recommend core only, especially not with being restricted to the already weak classes. Even if a weak party were capable of playing D&D it wouldn't be a weak and core only party as Fighters, Barbarians, and so forth are entirely dependent upon non core material to do anything at all. The classes that can function in a core only environment also are not the weak classes (not to mention a Wizard, or hell even a Bard would just faceroll the entire scenario).

I'm even fine with you getting help (and indeed expected this to be hivemind vs standard adventuring day even if only one person were actually participating) but wouldn't suggest you get it from here as most people here would be a hindrance instead.
Quote from: The sound of Sacro getting SaccedA weapon with a special ability must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus.

Quote from: JRR;593157No, but it is a game with rules.  If the results of the dice are not to be accepted, why bother rolling the dice.  So you can accept the good rolls and ignore the bad?  Yeah, let\'s give everyone a trophy.

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Quote from: Mr. GC;591487That's cute. A level 1 adventure

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That being the case, what would you recommend as some useful supplementary materials that would be broadly applicable across several classes?  The less I have to search amongst a wide supplement base, the better.
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Mr. GC

Quote from: This Guy;591505That being the case, what would you recommend as some useful supplementary materials that would be broadly applicable across several classes?  The less I have to search amongst a wide supplement base, the better.

Depends on which. Melee needs to tap (multiple) Complete books. Not just the melee one - in fact that one actually offers melees very little! There aren't that many casters but the ones that are available only exist in non core books.

At the very least I'd say core, completes, and PHB2. That gives you around 80% of the available viable material.
Quote from: The sound of Sacro getting SaccedA weapon with a special ability must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus.

Quote from: JRR;593157No, but it is a game with rules.  If the results of the dice are not to be accepted, why bother rolling the dice.  So you can accept the good rolls and ignore the bad?  Yeah, let\'s give everyone a trophy.

Quote from: The best quote of all time!Honestly. Go. Play. A. Larp. For. A. While.

Eventually you will realise you were a retard and sucked until you did.

This Guy

I'll keep an eye out for those.  Last thing, any specific restrictions on starting with magic items?  Like I said, it's been a while, and the examples OOE listed were pretty vague.
I don\'t want to play with you.

Mr. GC

Quote from: This Guy;591510I'll keep an eye out for those.  Last thing, any specific restrictions on starting with magic items?  Like I said, it's been a while, and the examples OOE listed were pretty vague.

You have standard wealth. Aside from shit like Dust of Sneezing and Choking, Candle of Invocation and other standard auto ban stuff have fun.

He was just using partial NPC statblocks from the DMG. Kind of fitting, since they were explicitly described as NPCs, but also not exactly productive... I mean even I think a gimp party can carry a fucking light source into a dungeon. -.-;

I just don't think that their doing so will stop them from being eaten by a Grue.
Quote from: The sound of Sacro getting SaccedA weapon with a special ability must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus.

Quote from: JRR;593157No, but it is a game with rules.  If the results of the dice are not to be accepted, why bother rolling the dice.  So you can accept the good rolls and ignore the bad?  Yeah, let\'s give everyone a trophy.

Quote from: The best quote of all time!Honestly. Go. Play. A. Larp. For. A. While.

Eventually you will realise you were a retard and sucked until you did.

StormBringer

Quote from: Doom;591498See, now this sounds like fun....no special abilities, no "I win" buttons, just actually role playing the game.

I think a thread on this would be more insteresting.
Jump on in.  So far, we each have three, and if more people join, we just might get a full party set up.

This will prove the claim once and for all time that GC is completely wrong, and so-called 'optimizers' are not only shitty players that need the GM to hold their hand, but they can't even play a session without numbers and rule-lawyering to protect them.  Hence, they are bad people too.

Right now, I am working on Sgt Llewellyn (axe, shield, padded armour), Tybalt (bill, padded armour) and Aylward (short bow, padded armour).  Llewellyn might be a warrior instead, I don't know yet.  Maybe you could make either or both Sir Piers and Sir Gunter as the warrior class.
(Yes, I'm stealing the names from Cry Havoc/Siege :)  )
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Mr. GC

Quote from: StormBringer;591527Jump on in.  So far, we each have three, and if more people join, we just might get a full party set up.

This will prove the claim once and for all time that Stormbringer is completely irrelevant

Fixed.
Quote from: The sound of Sacro getting SaccedA weapon with a special ability must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus.

Quote from: JRR;593157No, but it is a game with rules.  If the results of the dice are not to be accepted, why bother rolling the dice.  So you can accept the good rolls and ignore the bad?  Yeah, let\'s give everyone a trophy.

Quote from: The best quote of all time!Honestly. Go. Play. A. Larp. For. A. While.

Eventually you will realise you were a retard and sucked until you did.

StormBringer

Quote from: Mr. GC;591530Fixed.
It's so cute when you completely shit yourself and have nothing better than 'fixed' or 'translated' or 'Hi, welcome'.  But, isn't that an example of those one-liner fuck you's that you so stridently object to?
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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- Thomas Paine
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Is it wrong that I am shipping the two of you?
I don\'t want to play with you.

Mr. GC

Quote from: This Guy;591534Is it wrong that I am shipping the two of you?

If you mean shipping to somewhere where we could get in a ring together or something, not really. If you mean the other kind of shipping, you are a terrible person, arguably worse than the basket weavers.
Quote from: The sound of Sacro getting SaccedA weapon with a special ability must have at least a +1 enhancement bonus.

Quote from: JRR;593157No, but it is a game with rules.  If the results of the dice are not to be accepted, why bother rolling the dice.  So you can accept the good rolls and ignore the bad?  Yeah, let\'s give everyone a trophy.

Quote from: The best quote of all time!Honestly. Go. Play. A. Larp. For. A. While.

Eventually you will realise you were a retard and sucked until you did.

TristramEvans

Quote from: Mr. GC;591537If you mean shipping to somewhere where we could get in a ring together or something, not really

I'd pitch into a kickstarter to see that happen.

Sacrosanct

Quote from: TristramEvans;591538I'd pitch into a kickstarter to see that happen.

He's a 13 year old kid who thinks D&D isn't pretend and can't come to grips with objective data that shows he is wrong..  Kid needs to see someone professional.  And I'm serious about that.  Before he ends up stabbing someone at a phone booth for trying to steal his spells.

I wish that was joking.
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