No, this is not a troll thread(even though some may think so), and it is not really an attempt at deep introspection.

I have come to understanding, that i sincerely belive(in its full sense, and no, not Faith, that is different to me) that the game system is the best game system for rpgs that i ever have encountered, thus far.
Ok, this is different than i used to think, in that i used to think it was simply the best.

I also admit nowadays, that mine cannot be the best ever, since i am certain even that can be improved upon.
And i also admit, that it has its weak spots, mainly in detail for firearms, highly specific skills, and the probaly-unattainable-anyway realism.

However, the general consensus is, that no game system is truly better than another.
If that is true, then i must be deluded.
However, it may also mean that an unfinished and broken gamesystem has just as much validity as a well-known published one ...
So why don't they?

I'm also again wrestling with my own emotions on wether i truly have any good reason to continue working on my own system.
I mean, if i am deluded and the system isn't better, then i have not that reason to work on it.
I could even satistisfy with how it is, send a copy to anyone that wants it, and declare "Hey, this is all i managed, there is no point in doing more on it".

A number of people think that certain systems do a particular job better than any other and some think that a game system does everything better than any other.

Some people think that some games systems are better suited to certain things than others.

Personally, I think that some game systems are "Good Enough" or "Good Enough with House Rules" and that is all I need.

If you think that one game system, presumably written by yourself, is better than all the other game system then you are probably right.

Of course, if it includes classes or levels then, unfortunately, you are probably wrong.

If the system is being enjoyed more than any other by you and your group, that is enough reason to keep working on and playing it.

Producing something for use by others will always be a mixed bag because of subjective tastes.

Quote from: Catelf;730207However, the general consensus is, that no game system is truly better than another.
If that is true, then i must be deluded.
However, it may also mean that an unfinished and broken gamesystem has just as much validity as a well-known published one ...
So why don't they?

I don't believe there can ever be a "one best tabletop RPG system" simply because no one system can ever cater to all play styles and all goals equally well, let alone handle them all well enough to be the best at all of them.  That claiming a particular tabletop RPG is the (unqualified) best system ever is claiming that it is the best for every play type, every campaign type, every player, every GM, etc. And that simply cannot be true because (for example) one game system cannot be the best for a player who wants short, simple rules (less than 16 pages total) and the best for a player who wants long complex rules (several hundred pages at a minimum) at the same time.

This all goes with some assumptions, different systems model things differently, yes; however, there is a huge range for individual tastes. For example, if one says "heroic", are they talking Joshua Chamberlain or Bruce Wayne? I think of Chamberlain first myself.

Thank you all for good answers to an admittedly odd question.

Quote from: soltakss;730212A number of people think that certain systems do a particular job better than any other and some think that a game system does everything better than any other.

Some people think that some games systems are better suited to certain things than others.

Personally, I think that some game systems are "Good Enough" or "Good Enough with House Rules" and that is all I need.

If you think that one game system, presumably written by yourself, is better than all the other game system then you are probably right.

Of course, if it includes classes or levels then, unfortunately, you are probably wrong.

It do not use levels, and this answer is enough for me to keep avoiding using Classes, too ... i think?

Quote from: Exploderwizard;730217If the system is being enjoyed more than any other by you and your group, that is enough reason to keep working on and playing it.

Producing something for use by others will always be a mixed bag because of subjective tastes.

I have tried to get others to test it ... but if they have, i don't yet know what they thought ... and i don't know if i will ever know, either. XD

Quote from: RandallS;730219I don't believe there can ever be a "one best tabletop RPG system" simply because no one system can ever cater to all play styles and all goals equally well, let alone handle them all well enough to be the best at all of them.  That claiming a particular tabletop RPG is the (unqualified) best system ever is claiming that it is the best for every play type, every campaign type, every player, every GM, etc. And that simply cannot be true because (for example) one game system cannot be the best for a player who wants short, simple rules (less than 16 pages total) and the best for a player who wants long complex rules (several hundred pages at a minimum) at the same time.

I essentially agree, but ...
Do that mean that a system can be the best, or one of the best, for a specific gaming style?

Quote from: dragoner;730225This all goes with some assumptions, different systems model things differently, yes; however, there is a huge range for individual tastes. For example, if one says "heroic", are they talking Joshua Chamberlain or Bruce Wayne? I think of Chamberlain first myself.

I think of anything from Indiana Jones to Someone who stands up against a bully ...

Quote from: Catelf;730237I essentially agree, but ...
Do that mean that a system can be the best, or one of the best, for a specific gaming style?

Some people like Skittles, some like M&Ms, still others like Reese's Pieces or even a particular off-brand small hard-shelled candy.

Non of those are "the best small hard shell candy".

Quote from: Piestrio;730240Some people like Skittles, some like M&Ms, still others like Reese's Pieces or even a particular off-brand small hard-shelled candy.

Non of those are "the best small hard shell candy".

Some might disagree, of course, but i like the comparison:
Neither are the best, because ... often, it is what people grew up with ...!

... And there sunk my reason to continue on the game, because there is NO WAY i can hope to compete with games that others grew up with, even if my would be easier to play and entirely free ...

Quote from: Catelf;730244Some might disagree, of course, but i like the comparison:
Neither are the best, because ... often, it is what people grew up with ...!

... And there sunk my reason to continue on the game, because there is NO WAY i can hope to compete with games that others grew up with, even if my would be easier to play and entirely free ...

Personally I'd be quite put out if Mars stopped making Skittles simply because they weren't everyone's favorite candy.

Quote from: Piestrio;730247Personally I'd be quite put out if Mars stopped making Skittles simply because they weren't everyone's favorite candy.

Yeah, but that would only be comparable to losing all copies of CoC, and found noone sold it any longer, ...

If i stopped working on mine, it would be more like if an obscure variant of candy you'd never heard of never went into actual production, more than in a few testexamples ....

Quote from: Catelf;730244... And there sunk my reason to continue on the game, because there is NO WAY i can hope to compete with games that others grew up with, even if my would be easier to play and entirely free ...

How do you know that without publishing it and finding out?

When I wrote Microlite74, I expected people who liked old school games would use to try to introduce their 3e era friends to them as M74 was basically 0e with modern mechanics (Ascending AC, etc.) and after a few sessions move to a TSR version of D&D. I never dreamed people would like it enough to want to play it on its own as they do. I never thought I would be producing revisions and companion volumes or the B/X-based version I'm now working on. But it was free to publish and free to download, so I went ahead and published -- and was very surprised.

Don't worry, nobody will probably play your game outside of you and your friends, so make something that's good for your bunch.

Quote from: Catelf;730250Yeah, but that would only be comparable to losing all copies of CoC, and found noone sold it any longer, ...

If i stopped working on mine, it would be more like if an obscure variant of candy you'd never heard of never went into actual production, more than in a few testexamples ....

I'd also be very put out if Mars had decided to never make Skittles in the first place just because it wouldn't be "the best" candy.

Delusion, I feel, lies in believing that any one game or mechanic is "objectively better" for every gamer ever.

Preferring one game or mechanic over all others is more than okay, as long as you don't fool yourself into believing that your tastes and idiosyncrasies are a measure of what is "objectively" better.

Which ultimately would be just another way of saying that you're better than all the dim-witted sheeple beneath your notice who mindlessly consume subpar gaming while you, a smart, witty, urbane, sophisticated and good-looking connoisseur, stand at the cutting edge of the hobby.

The definitive book on taste has yet to be written. Yet books in the same vein are still made, are a snapshot of their time, and if done well are at least a good read.