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Going on the Webcomic model.

Started by Levi Kornelsen, June 12, 2008, 08:39:09 PM

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Blackleaf

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;216920I release directly to the public domain these days.  No copyright at all.

Anything of mine on Amagi is yours.  Do with it what you wish.

What's the advantage to you to put it completely in the public domain rather than a Creative Commons attribution license?

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/

QuoteYou are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

    * Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Levi Kornelsen

Quote from: Stuart;217812What's the advantage to you to put it completely in the public domain rather than a Creative Commons attribution license?

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/

I've got two reasons for that decision.  First, you can't use Creative Commons content in an OGL product, or a GSL product, or....   Yeah.  Public Domain goes with everything.

Secondly, the whole worldwide conversation about rights and licenses and filesharing and...   Well, I think that's a shitty conversation, and I want to opt out.  I'd rather have a conversation about sharing the stuff you like far and wide, enthsiastically grabbing awesome stuff and not needing to worry about licenses or similar froofrah.

Simply put, I don't want a better license.  I want a different conversation.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Levi Kornelsen;217923I've got two reasons for that decision.  First, you can't use Creative Commons content in an OGL product, or a GSL product, or....   Yeah.  Public Domain goes with everything.

Are you sure about that?

Wouldn't that only apply to a Creative Commons license like this:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/

QuoteYou are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

    * Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

    * Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.

The "Share Alike" part is where I could see it not be compatible with OGL and GLS... but if you chose a CC license without that, I don't see why it would be incompatible.

There are multiple Creative Commons licenses.  You can choose whether to allow commerical or only non-commerical uses of your work, and whether you allow people to make modifications or not, and whether you require them to use a CC license if they make a modification.

Levi Kornelsen

Quote from: Stuart;217984Are you sure about that?

Not absolutely certain.

However, the big point is this:   Say you have a two-page idea in your hands.  You want to apply it to something, to make off with the ideas.

Are you interested in reading, say, six more pages of legal horseshit in order to know what you are and are not allowed to do?    'Cuz I'm not.  Lower barriers makes for easier use.  

What happens if there are no barriers at all?  Something good?

Blackleaf

I agree, but the CC are super easy to read and figure out.

This one:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/

Is the same as public domain... I just need to give you some credit for your contribution.  Sounds fair to me. :)

Levi Kornelsen

Quote from: Stuart;218011I just need to give you some credit for your contribution.

Which sure does sound fair.  Absolutely.

Until you imagine the equivalent of a "section 15" that comes to well over a page in length.

Y'know that whole "If gamers talked about Cookbooks" comedy bit?  Do cookbooks have a list of back pages filled with references and accreditations and so on?  Do cooks on TV cite the authors of the recipe variations when instructing you on how to bake some cookies?

No, they just trade ideas.  Credit gets given on an informal, casual basis, on the grounds of when it is polite and helpful to do so.

I don't need a license to protect me from people being rude.  I don't want a license to make it necessarily for my name to be involved in conversations where someone is trying to show someone else something cool, just because I used those specific words, that specific expression.

By having a license, I would require that people attend to something other than being totally fucking cool.  Even if it's a minor thing, a potentially very reasonable thing, I would rather they just attend to being really fucking cool.  And I think that doing so will earn me more respect - and therefore more mindshare, more traffic - than otherwise.