Quote from: HinterWeltJust bringing it up as a point to keep in mind. It sounds like Minerva, Venus or Earth would need to be the real agressor worlds out of pure physilogical necessity. Mars seems...unlikely but possible. hmmm, idea.

HG Wells already thought of that. That is why the Martians have their TRIPODS!

Quote from: Kyle AaronHG Wells already thought of that. That is why the Martians have their TRIPODS!

They didn't leave their boats, and look what happened to them! :O

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceThey didn't leave their boats, and look what happened to them! :O

-clash

I might add, look what happened when they even poked their heads out of the boat....

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltI might add, look what happened when they even poked their heads out of the boat....

Bill

Hehe! Luckily - or unluckily - the Martians would be as immune to Earth microbes as we would be to theirs - and our own.

Also luckily - or unlickily - Outer Moon exo-suits wouldn't fit Earth or even Mars humans.

-clash

Here's a nice view of comparative sizes of moons:



And here are the comparative sizes of the planets - from L to R Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars:



Note that Ganymede and Titan are almost as large as Mars, and Callisto is not far behind, and is comparable to Mercury in size.

-clash

Hasn't anypne ever told you size does not matter Clash?

Gravity:
Earth 1
Mars .38
Venus .91
Mercury .38

Moons
Luna .16
Io .18
Europa .13
Ganymede .14
Callisto .12
Titan .14
Triton .08

Light worlders are going to have a bitch of a time on Anything more than Mars or Mercury and they will have it rough there. Think about it. Say you are 220 and you go to a world where you weigh 660!

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltHasn't anypne ever told you size does not matter Clash?

No, I always heard "O! O! Size DOES Matter! YES!" Squrrel man!

QuoteGravity:
Earth 1
Mars .38
Venus .91
Mercury .38

Moons
Luna .16
Io .18
Europa .13
Ganymede .14
Callisto .12
Titan .14
Triton .08

Thanks! That's a handy list!

QuoteLight worlders are going to have a bitch of a time on Anything more than Mars or Mercury and they will have it rough there. Think about it. Say you are 220 and you go to a world where you weigh 660!

Bill

Isn't that what the Exo-Suits are for? What was your point? :O

What I mean is yes, absolutely, and without a doubt. Was I saying something else?

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceNo, I always heard "O! O! Size DOES Matter! YES!" Squrrel man!



Thanks! That's a handy list!



Isn't that what the Exo-Suits are for? What was your point? :O

What I mean is yes, absolutely, and without a doubt. Was I saying something else?

-clash

Sorry, I misunderstood your point about the size of the planets.

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltSorry, I misunderstood your point about the size of the planets.

Bill

It was just an interesting comparison pic is all. It didn't really have a point beyond that. I just thought it was cool and wanted to share.

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceIt was just an interesting comparison pic is all. It didn't really have a point beyond that. I just thought it was cool and wanted to share.

-clash

Oh, yeah, it is cool. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Just so you know, those gravities are why I was thinking of the exo-suits. When you said you wanted many races from all those planets and moons the first thing I thought of was the limitations on PCs. That said, I reiterate, do we want that level of detail? Not a problem to do so but we just need to be aware what a Titian will be like on Earth...Dead that is.

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltOh, yeah, it is cool. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Just so you know, those gravities are why I was thinking of the exo-suits. When you said you wanted many races from all those planets and moons the first thing I thought of was the limitations on PCs. That said, I reiterate, do we want that level of detail? Not a problem to do so but we just need to be aware what a Titian will be like on Earth...Dead that is.

Bill

Not if the inside of their exosuit was a supportive gel or liquid, which is what I was imagining. It would be difficult, but not impossible. OTOH, it makes sense. The folks from the outer planets aren't interested in the inner planets for a reason - they're uncomfortable. On yet another hand anti-gravity may be perfectly plausible with this theoretical underpinning. I don't know yet.

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceNot if the inside of their exosuit was a supportive gel or liquid, which is what I was imagining. It would be difficult, but not impossible. OTOH, it makes sense. The folks from the outer planets aren't interested in the inner planets for a reason - they're uncomfortable. On yet another hand anti-gravity may be perfectly plausible with this theoretical underpinning. I don't know yet.

-clash

Yes! This is what I was trying to say. However, if they are rare artifacts of family houses then it will limit PCs somewhat. If, alternatively, they are common, we could have some serious exchange of personnel. Again, a choice but an interesting one. I could see it being a very cool mission to search out Ancient Tritonian component for the family exo-suit. Alternatively, a Titian trader in his exo-suit hiring a group of heavy worlder brutes for a mission to Venus could be many forms of cool.

Bill

Edit:
So, distinct races. Let's list them.
Tritonians
Titians
Eo?
Ganymedens?
Callistans?
Europans?

Human (Earthling)
Human (Venusian)
Dino (Venusian)
Dino (Martian)
Martian

More? Did you want some Humans, Martians or Dinos on the outer Moons? You had mentioned it but I was not sure if you wanted to keep with that.

Quote from: HinterWeltYes! This is what I was trying to say. However, if they are rare artifacts of family houses then it will limit PCs somewhat. If, alternatively, they are common, we could have some serious exchange of personnel. Again, a choice but an interesting one. I could see it being a very cool mission to search out Ancient Tritonian component for the family exo-suit. Alternatively, a Titian trader in his exo-suit hiring a group of heavy worlder brutes for a mission to Venus could be many forms of cool.

I like the differentiation of the light worlders vs the heavy worlders.

QuoteBill

Edit:
So, distinct races. Let's list them.
Tritonians
Titians
Eo?
Ganymedens?
Callistans?
Europans?

Human (Earthling)
Human (Venusian)
Dino (Venusian)
Dino (Martian)
Martian

More? Did you want some Humans, Martians or Dinos on the outer Moons? You had mentioned it but I was not sure if you wanted to keep with that.

Here's my list
Tritonian (Dino)
Tritonian (Human)
Tritonian (Martian)
Titanian (Dino)
Titanian (Human)
Titanian (Martian)
Ionian (Dino)
Ionian (Human)
Ganymedian (Dino)
Ganymedian (Human)
Ganymedian (Martian)
Callistans (Dino)
Callistan(Human)
Europans (Dino)
Europan (Human)
Martian (Dino)
Martian (Human)
Martian (Martian)
Earthling (Human)
Venusian (Dino)
Venusian (Human)

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceI like the differentiation of the light worlders vs the heavy worlders.



Here's my list
Tritonian (Dino)
Tritonian (Human)
Tritonian (Martian)
Titanian (Dino)
Titanian (Human)
Titanian (Martian)
Ionian (Dino)
Ionian (Human)
Ganymedian (Dino)
Ganymedian (Human)
Ganymedian (Martian)
Callistans (Dino)
Callistan(Human)
Europans (Dino)
Europan (Human)
Martian (Dino)
Martian (Human)
Martian (Martian)
Earthling (Human)
Venusian (Dino)
Venusian (Human)

-clash

See, I would not have put the Dinos on the outer worlds so much. I would think they would thrive like crazy on worlds like Venus and (if they could get to it) Earth. Maybe Mars. Triton, I see as a world with everyone.

So, that said, we wont have current Minervans or moon races? Basically, humans, martian and dino with variations doe to gravity and sun?

Bill

Quote from: HinterWeltSee, I would not have put the Dinos on the outer worlds so much. I would think they would thrive like crazy on worlds like Venus and (if they could get to it) Earth. Maybe Mars. Triton, I see as a world with everyone.

So, that said, we wont have current Minervans or moon races? Basically, humans, martian and dino with variations doe to gravity and sun?

Bill

We don't have Minervans as PCs. I'd like to keep them mysterious. They are survivors, hidden away in the outer moons somewhere.

Otherwise, yes. Humans, Dinos, and Martians with regional variations.

-clash