Quote from: James McMurrayI'd say it was a fairly large number of them. Here for instance you have RPGsiters vs Forgies. Elsewhere it may be WoD vs. D&D, "roleplayers" vs. "munchkins", "bathed vs. stinky", or whatever. I think it's a rare gamer that looks out at the huge number of different types of gamers and says "I consider these all to be my peers and/or equals."

Well, if you want to take it that far out, I could always  say my line in the sand is between 'Pika' and 'food'.  Or mostly GM vs. Mostly Player...

But I don't really consider anyone my equal, much less my peer.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenThere are lines in the sand, though, in many places:



The Forge acts like a peer review community where you aren't a peer until you agree with certain basic principles; in practical terms, those principles aren't up for questioning.

And if you don't think that's insulting to that community...   Uh, I got nothin'.

Not so much insulting, rather a disturbing statement on the nature of western academia. If you must agree to certain, untouchable, principles, you begin tossing out scientific analysis or, frankly, independent thought. That this is remotely acceptable behavior for a professor is what disturbs me. What if this man gains power in his local college? On the national collegiate scale?  Can he then dictate what principles are not up for discussion? Is he learning this from his own superiors in the academic world?  This is acceptable?

Quote from: SpikeNot so much insulting, rather a disturbing statement on the nature of western academia. If you must agree to certain, untouchable, principles, you begin tossing out scientific analysis or, frankly, independent thought. That this is remotely acceptable behavior for a professor is what disturbs me. What if this man gains power in his local college? On the national collegiate scale?  Can he then dictate what principles are not up for discussion? Is he learning this from his own superiors in the academic world?  This is acceptable?

I have no reason to believe that he would treat a community of accredited peers in such a fashion.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenI have no reason to believe that he would treat a community of accredited peers in such a fashion.

He had to have learned it somewhere.  I'm a firm beliver that how people act in their private life, hobbies and whatever, is a truer statement of their personal belief structures than their work life... and may serve as an indicator of how they actually behave in their work life when they think they can get away with it

Which is why it's disturbing to me.

Quote from: James McMurraysnipped: pointless drivel and insult

Answer the question, Jamesy. Were you being honest in your reasons for your constant feces-flinging, or is there another reason?

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Quote from: SpikeNot so much insulting, rather a disturbing statement on the nature of western academia. If you must agree to certain, untouchable, principles, you begin tossing out scientific analysis or, frankly, independent thought. That this is remotely acceptable behavior for a professor is what disturbs me. What if this man gains power in his local college? On the national collegiate scale?  Can he then dictate what principles are not up for discussion? Is he learning this from his own superiors in the academic world?  This is acceptable?

Nah, this says way more about him then modern academia (which has its problems, but this isn't one of them).  This isn't academia we're seeing at the Forge, its standard by-the-book pseudoacademia.  I mean, its right out of the "Creation Science" playbook, move for move, which is what is really ironic considering Edward's background in Biology.

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*Shrug*

Fully open, totally "break it down" peer review is good.  Having a direction, also good.  

I mean, theRPGsite has it's own take on this, too.

Here, everything is open to review.  Everything.  I could decide to review the Pundit's publicly stated opinions on sodomy, should the mood take me (from behind, most likely, and to my undoubtably enduring shock).

But the 'direction' is relatively weak.  Defensive directions always are; the only easy compensation is volume.

The hard way for Pundit to get what he wants would be to basically get a group of posters onboard with the idea of keeping the forum heavily stocked with constant discussion of how to make your mainstream / traditional games rock, and rock hard.

It'd also require reordering the specific boards to prompt discussion in that direction.

Quote from: RPGPunditAnswer the question, Jamesy. Were you being honest in your reasons for your constant feces-flinging, or is there another reason?

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Move along boy, adults are talking here.

Quote from: SpikeNot so much insulting, rather a disturbing statement on the nature of western academia. If you must agree to certain, untouchable, principles, you begin tossing out scientific analysis or, frankly, independent thought. That this is remotely acceptable behavior for a professor is what disturbs me. What if this man gains power in his local college? On the national collegiate scale?  Can he then dictate what principles are not up for discussion? Is he learning this from his own superiors in the academic world?  This is acceptable?

I don't think we hae much to worry about in regards to him getting any academic power, at least not until he removes RPGs from his CV.

Quote from: James McMurrayMove along boy, adults are talking here.

Again, Jamesy, answer the question. Its very simple, yes or no: Are you being honest in your stated reasons for your constant feces-flinging?

RPGPundit

That's it.

The Pundit and the James need to get themselves to a challenge thread. This shit is weak, and I know we can get better out of them both. Take it to a sticky and really cut lose.

Entertain me, motherfucker!

Quote from: RPGPunditAgain, Jamesy, answer the question. Its very simple, yes or no: Are you being honest in your stated reasons for your constant feces-flinging?

RPGPundit

I'll answer your questions when you can ask them like the good little boy I know you can be if you try. Until then, we're trying to have a discussion here.

Quote from: James McMurrayI'll answer your questions when you can ask them like the good little boy I know you can be if you try. Until then, we're trying to have a discussion here.

James, I was talking to you too. Take it to a Pistols at Dawn sort of thread. Savage each other verbally there all you like in a forum equivilent of the Gladatorial Arena.

Entertain me, Motherfucker!


Just quit your sniping across the dozen or so active threads that are going on.  Neither one of you are scoring points worth a damn, and quite frankly, it's sort of dull.

Quote from: SpikeThat's it.

The Pundit and the James need to get themselves to a challenge thread. This shit is weak, and I know we can get better out of them both. Take it to a sticky and really cut lose.

Entertain me, motherfucker!

I am in accord with the little yellow rat.

I quit doing anything but replying to his posts directed at me a while back, and would have stopped sooner had I not gotten a few PMs from people laughing along with me. But if it's that grating on you then I'll stop.

I can't promise I'll never do it again though.

If Pundit wants a thread where we insult each other back and forth I'm fine with that, but I doubt it'll happen.