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Brain Damage Thread

Started by joewolz, March 09, 2007, 09:00:18 PM

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Thanatos02

#30
March 10, 2007, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: lev_lafayetteNevertheless, if this is included in JimBob's big list of links, it would stand to reason that the RPG Pundit's comments that goths are mentally troubled who deserve to be punished and that goth women deserve to be fucked then mocked should also be included. After all, Edwards is simply stubbornly wrong, the Pundit however is stubbornly wrong and malicious.
I've seen that before, but it was so amazingly wrong and stupid that I just let it lie. Much as Pundits rhetoric is a loose cannon, damaging his points as often as it helps, Ron's rhetoric has probably done more to hurt him then it ever helped.

It's really only relevant in a discussion of game design in so far as a note of how bickering and sophistery ruins a good discussion.
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joewolz

#31
March 10, 2007, 07:17:56 PM
I put this thread here because the discussions I was searching out had to do with theory.  That's about the long and short.  

I have no idea where the thread belongs now.

But it's active!
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mythusmage

#32
March 10, 2007, 07:45:56 PM
I was abused as a child. Not by my parents, but by other children and authority figures. With my clinical depression I have generalized anxiety disorder. When I was a kid I'd tend to freak out when other kids got to teasing me. (Explains tons, don't it?) I'm older, wiser, and on medication now, which makes a huge difference.

I should hope I know and understand more about abuse than Edwards. His claim that only the abused would enjoy "incoherent" (and I don't think that word means what he thinks it means) games shows me he has no knowledge or understanding of what it means to be abused, or to be the product of abuse. (Before anybody asks, there was no physical abuse, it was all emotional.)

Ron Edwards is one of those people who could use some remedial socializing.
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#33
March 10, 2007, 08:05:13 PM
...with a louisville slugger...
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joewolz

#34
March 10, 2007, 08:37:45 PM
Mythusmage, that was...very brave to say.
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Calithena

#35
March 10, 2007, 08:47:52 PM
QuoteRon Edwards is one of those people who could use some remedial socializing.

Actually, this turns out not to be the case. I've never gamed with Ron, but I've hung out with him extensively at a wedding and talked to him on the phone a few times, and I've found him exceptionally easy to get along with. He's smart, funny, generous with his time, no less interested in what you're saying than he is in hearing his own voice, and in general I'd rate him one of the more socially high-functioning people I've hung out with.
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Settembrini

#36
March 11, 2007, 03:37:49 AM
QuoteI bolded the above because sometimes your German really infulences your English...I'm not ripping on you Sett, that just sounds really funny to me.

Oh, I know. Grammatical accents are the hardest to get rid off. It really is dependant on whether I´m actually mentally prephrasing in german or in english.

QuoteI've never gamed with Ron, but I've hung out with him extensively at a wedding and talked to him on the phone a few times, and I've found him exceptionally easy to get along with. He's smart, funny, generous with his time, no less interested in what you're saying than he is in hearing his own voice, and in general I'd rate him one of the more socially high-functioning people I've hung out with.

Well he definitely is a nice guy and fun person to be around. In real life, you can always interrupt someone and remind him of something that should be phrased differently (goes both ways). Online you don´t have that. And interestingly enough, I found Ron´s positions to be more axiomatic when he defends them online.

There were several strange situations at the Spione Event, that were rather socially awkward for us in the audience, and we got the feel Ron wasn´t noticing. But that could well be just cultural differences.

All in all, I can just say personally attacking him, or insinuating mentally deficiencies doesn´t do him justice on that level. But: he´s doing it online "all the time", so it´s just on that level.
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Kyle Aaron

#37
March 11, 2007, 04:14:25 AM
Quote from: SettembriniThere were several strange situations at the Spione Event, that were rather socially awkward for us in the audience, and we got the feel Ron wasn´t noticing. But that could well be just cultural differences.
Or he could just be an oblivious geek. We have a few of those in the hobby :p

And his obliviousness does come across online.
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