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Non-lethal Damage

Started by Ronin, July 21, 2013, 05:03:46 PM

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Ronin

July 21, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
I'm working on a little project and I'm stumped, sorta. Looking for a better wording of non-lethal damage. Just the wording, not the mechanics. The genre is modern. Looking for some suggestions. Thanks:)
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Rincewind1

#1
July 21, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
Knockout damage? I've been pretty content with Subdual damage as well.
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Endless Flight

#2
July 21, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
How about Bashing Damage?

Ronin

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July 21, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Interesting. Thank you for your responses. Gets my mind churning. Which is why I asked.:) I the game I'm working on is a modern era spy/mercenary/commando kind of thing. I'm drawing from The Born Identity, John Lecarre's Karla Trilogy, The Tourist, Rainbow Six, The IPCRESS File, The Expendables, The Dogs of War, or Man on Fire. So I'm looking for something not to "comic booky". But Non-Lethal damage sounds to clinical, textual to me. Am I wrong in that thought? I do like subdual damage. That seems to ring well in my mind. If anyone else has more suggestions I would still love to hear them.
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Artifacts of Amber

#4
July 23, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
How about Cosmetic Damage. Just looks bad but doesn't actually impair but maybe adds up eventually.

Or Fatiguing damage. SOmething some rest can cure.

B&B Damage . . . Bumps and Bruises.

Just some thoughts.

AndrewSFTSN

#5
July 23, 2013, 03:57:37 PM
Beatings rules.

Decking rules.

"A Good Drubbing." rule.
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#6
July 23, 2013, 06:35:31 PM
You could call it Normal Damage and then have firearms do Killing Damage..
Or you could distinguish between Blunt and Penetrating damage (a la JAGS), although that descriptor doesn't cover 'fatigue' damage like maybe suffocation or exhaustion as well.

soltakss

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July 24, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
Stunning damage?
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#8
July 25, 2013, 12:18:14 AM
Maybe fatigue or blunt trauma?  

From my perspective of wording choice, it depends on if you're using a game where you refer to it as a damage or as a damage type.  Is it something where it overflows from a quick-healing version of the standard damage to physical, such as in Shadowrun, or a comparative damage transfer (such as in the 2e rules) or even a completely separate pool?
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July 25, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Panzerkraken;674314Maybe fatigue or blunt trauma?  

From my perspective of wording choice, it depends on if you're using a game where you refer to it as a damage or as a damage type.  Is it something where it overflows from a quick-healing version of the standard damage to physical, such as in Shadowrun, or a comparative damage transfer (such as in the 2e rules) or even a completely separate pool?

Kind of all of the above. Non-lethal will eventually turn to lethal damage. When a character has taken all the non- lethal they can it starts to turn into lethal. So say if a character has 5 non lethal slots (for lack of a better word). Then takes 4 non lethal. Then in another attack receives 2 more. It fills the last slot. Then comes around changing the first non-lethal slot to a lethal damage.
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#10
July 26, 2013, 01:18:06 AM
I'm a fan of blunt trauma then.  It doesn't reduce the effect that the damage presents, just points out that without the pointy or cutty bits it takes a bit longer or you have to hit em harder.
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#11
July 26, 2013, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;673845You could call it Normal Damage and then have firearms do Killing Damage..
Or you could distinguish between Blunt and Penetrating damage (a la JAGS), although that descriptor doesn't cover 'fatigue' damage like maybe suffocation or exhaustion as well.

I was just about to say blunt damage seems like a good idea to me.

Ronin

#12
July 28, 2013, 01:53:38 AM
I wanted to check in and thank everyone who has posted on this topic. Given me a lot to think about. I appreciate it.:)
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